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Precious is sick !!


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hermann muenster
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey sam - when you have "human kids" - you'll be like all the rest of us that have "them" ---- lost. Lost our minds, lost our insanity, lost our better judgement , lost...........

And you know what? It isn't such a bad way to be. And sometimes (many times, well actually , and honestly, all the time) you would never want to change anything about it.

Relax, take a nap, get some rest. You know you are going to need it when she comes home in a day or two.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sams, take a deep breath. It's not your fault! As you said, you do EVERYTHING you can to protect them. Some things are out of your control. Things happen!

But you reacted quickly and I'm sure she'll come through the surgery with flying colors.

We can't protect our kids - human or furry - from everything. We do the best we can.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know. I just want so much. I want them to be happy and healthy and and the best that they can be. And I want to make better dogs for the breed. Precious is such a good girl. Conformationaly, tempermently, structurally... the whole 9 yards... I fear most that she won't be able to have beautiful babies.

The vet said it should in no way effect that... but still I worry. We wont' breed her for quite some time, but even then, will it be a problem? has anyone had any experiance with a dog that had intestinal surgery and later had pups?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't give up hope for pups yet Sams. And if your program for her changes -- well, sometimes things like that happen.

I know several (like most parents) people that have children who they had great hopes for -- and things changed. One family lost a child to cancer, two families have girls that developed diabetes, the list is long and goes on and on. That's life.


I personally had intentions of breeding fine Bernese Mountain Dogs. I spent three years looking for the right dog. The right breeder. The right genes. I was thrilled when I found the perfect pup! Two years later - her OFA came back less than excellent. I made a decision with my family to spay. Rather than breed a dog that could potentially pass along an inferior gene to her offspring we had her spayed. Berners are a very touchy breed right now. They are loaded with health problems and have such short life spans due to cancers.

It was a hard decision. And it was a huge dissappointment, but we have a georgeous dog, with an excellent temperment. We went on to train for obedience and conformation. My daughter shows with 4-H and AKC Junior Showmanship. Our spayed little girl has gone on to earn a chamiopnship in obedience and 2nd for a best in show. If there aren't any changes in our plans we will continue obedience training and Junior Showmanship and enjoying our beautiful girl.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh Sam i am sorry, Atleast now you know that she is in the best place and will get sorted out.

Its nothing you did, and there was nothing you could have done, I look at it when you have animals or children you have to have eyes in the back of your head as there always getting into something they shouldnt and eat things that make them ill..

My prayers are sent out to you and precious and i think she will make a full recovery and will be back to her old self quickly.

Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surprised Surprised Laughing Laughing Surprised Surprised The vet just called!!!!

They removed a 2 1/2 in long x 1/2 - 3/4 inch wide stick!!!!
A STICK!!!!! WHY on Gods earth would she swallow a STICK!!!!

I can see her swallowing a toy, or piece of food.... but a STICK???!!!

Shocked

Anyway, she's fine. They are running a scope through out the rest of her intestines to be sure that it didn't tear anything or there aren't other pieces still in there.

They said she should make a FULL recovery and be a good momma. They said internally, she's VERY healthy and fit. They were amazed at he muscularity.

So I guess I can fully say now, that my dog is strucutally healthy inside and out.. and we found out that she had a stick up her butt.... and here I was just always thinking she was a moody dog! LOL....
I know... shouldn't make light of a bad situation... shame on me!



Thanks yall. Yall are all so wonderful!!! I'm such a worry wart. Guess it's out to the pens and yard to pick up sticks!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is great news! I was going to say, I remembered another thing from mypettherpydog I think was they couldnt find the blockage either with an xray because it was hidden so luckily they found it, so They have to do surgery to get it out? poor thing
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great news. Great news. Great news.


Celebrate!!!!!

P.S. Keep the cone on!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah. I don't know how invasive the surgery was, if they fully opened her up, or did it endoscopically.. dunno.

I'm going to visit her just as soon as they get her cleaned up and wake her up.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nala loves to chew on sticks. I'm glad Precious is going to be fine!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure they'll keep her tonight.

Keeping her calm will be a chore. I hope they give her some pain meds and sedate her for when i bring her home. I made up a spot in the bathroom again, I think she'll be comfy.

If she has to wear a cone, thats' gonna be funny. She hates anything around her head.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's such good news Sams.
I am always afraid Pepsi will swallow a rock and make me take her in for removal. She carries them all over the place and I am always throwing them away.
I hope Precious has a speedy recovery. Is she going to get to practice being a flashlight for 14 days like Dowser?

Oh BTW they had to give me Tranqs for Dowser. Remember he had some lumps, well his shoulder blew up (with fluid) and I had to take him in monday turned out because he was so active he was agrevating his surgery.
They gave us Acepromazine 25m. You might ask for the same for Precious.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samsintentions wrote:
yeah. I don't know how invasive the surgery was, if they fully opened her up, or did it endoscopically.. dunno. .


Glad to hear theyre sorting her out, I know how scary this can be.

At a guess they probably opened her up, anything that splinters can be tough to get out with an endoscope, they usually like to go in, make sure theyve got it all and flush everything out really well to avoid a peritonitis and any post sx problems. (just my experience).

Something you mentioned earlier (on the last page) about a twisted gut (bloat/torsion), I dont know if your aware of it, you probably are but I thought Id mention it just in case (or for anyone else reading this that isnt aware)
When a dog bloats and then twists its an immediate emergency (I know you already talked to your vet so they would have probably picked that up), its not something that you can wait to see what happens for a couple of hours, if it twists it wont untwist itself and the longer its left the more damage is done to the gut through loss of blood supply to the vessels, Ive seen many dogs that we have had to euthanize on the surgery table because the entire gut or most of it is necrosed and there is nothing we could do to save them.
If anyone suspects this you need to go to the vet straight away.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I'll definatly be asking for them. Dr. Zeplin called a while ago. She's doing fine. She's sitting up and wagging her little nub. They did have to open her up and do expoloratory until they found it. There was a lot of distended intestines.

There was no necrosis or damage done.

Yesterday she suspected blockage, but though it was more along the lines of virus or bacteria in her tummy. She listened to her gut sounds for a while so she really wasn't worried about bloat. Especially since there was not belly distension that we could see and no vomiting or diharea.
But then around 8:45pm she began vomiting. Still no belly bloating..

But the x-rays this morning confirmed it.

I'm just glad everything is ok. They are keeping her tonight and most of tomorow. they will try to give her some fluids by mouth tonight, but mostly its all going through IV. If she holds it down tonight, they will give her some puree in the morning. Then if all goes well and she potty's and holds it down she can come home tomorow afternoon. She will have to wear a cone, and keep very calm. No stairs, no jumping, no running, no hard foods or treats... and especailly, NO STICKS!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope she has a good, rapid recovery....youve got your work cut out for you for a couple of weeks...:Good luck. Your the best
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks! Hope yall are ready to help!!! Never tried or had to restrain a hurt mastiff before! This might just get intresting...

I've got it!! I need to write a book.. all the s*** Sam goes through!! LMAO!!! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those stairs are a real killer. My back deck is a second story balcony and Dowser does not like to poo in the front yard. So I have to escort him around from the front to the back and not allow him to use the stairs. He tried going down them when I was not looking and slid about 5 steps down. Now I am closing the upper deck gate so he can't even get to the stairs.

It is real good to hear that Precious is going to be ok. I was very worried for you guys.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks. We have to go up 5 steps to get into the house. Front or back... So I guess I'll be carrying her up the steps tomorow.... I'll have to get Granvel to build a ramp for her.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awe Sams, it's nothing you did! You said yourself large breeds are more prone to this. And if it turns out to be grass or something like that, there's nothing you could have done to prevent that!

I'm waiting anxiously to hear what it was in there.

I know how you feel though...I always say that my animals are so messed up, imagine what I would do to a human kid.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read posts above.. tee hee...
She ate a stick.
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