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tyler_medeiros
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:24 am    Post subject: Rough start...Need help PLEASE Reply with quote

I am a very beginner. My dad has owned koi all my live but i am more interested in the sharks and catfish.
Ive had a bumpy start but i think i am starting on my way. I have a 10 gallon aquarium with filter heater the works but no fish.
I was really interested in the Iredecent shark but ive done some research and they seem to big.
If you have any suggestions please give me a hand
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your right ID sharks get huge and shouldnt even be sold in store IMO. I cant really think of any sharks that would do good in a 10 gallon some coris might be pretty cool in there
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, your tank really limits you to corydoras catfish and guppies or neons. Why not save up some money and try for at least a 30 or 50 gallon tank. You will enjoy your fish more and have less trouble in the long run!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just want to second what's been said already. 10 gallons really is too small for most fish. It might not be a bad idea to stock it with some hardy fish like guppies or danios just to learn with. Then after you have more knowlege about fishkeeping & aquarium maintenance and have saved up some money you can get a bigger tank.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks
I will really look into some other fish.
My dad used to own a Raimbow shark in a 55 galon and it did pretty good and stayed fairly small. The thing for me getting a bigger tank is I live in an apartment and i really dont have the room. lik ea 10 gallon is pushing it.
I will keep looking.
Please keep the suggestions coming in
Tyler
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i also prefer to have fake plants instead of real ones.
Me and my dad have tried real a couple of times but we never have any luck
will that have an effect on what fish i can get???
Tyler
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep hearing the term "HARDY FISH"
can i get some examples??
thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hardy fish :danios, goldfish, bettas..........fish that are not realy finniky and are easy for begginners to have.....fish that are not hardy for example is a discus......they need perfect water conditions and nutrition and all to live.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive talked to my girlfriend and she says a 20 gallon would be fine.
How does that change fish types and number of fish.
I was in petcetera as well looking at their tanks.
what is a good price for a 20 gallon. I cantfind any prices online.
im in canada remember.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be easier if you did some looking around to see what's available in your area then told us some of the fish you're interested in. From there we could tell you what is appropriate or not.

You did mention rainbow sharks so I can tell you they get around 6" which means one would be fine in a 20 gallon (they're aggressive toward their own species and other similar fish so you could only keep one).

Also, I don't know how much it will help, but my 20 gallon tall cost about $50 American just for the tank. But that was from a small, overpriced mom & pop LFS. You could probably get it a lot cheaper from a chain store.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok ive done alot of research in the past 2 days and i have talked to many people. I am most likely going to get a 20 gallon tank. I ve looked all over at different pet shops and since there is about 8 in my neighborhood i have a pretty wide range of fish to choose from. Fish I found that i think are suitable are danios, guppies,bettas, dwarf Gourami, tetras, as well as mollies and playties. I've had platies and mollies most of my life, well my dad has so i am kinda looking for something new.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also wouldnt mind some bottom dwellers but i dont know much about them or any types.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my 20 gallon I have 2 dwarf gouramis, 1 powder blue dwarf gourami and 5 zebra danios. The make a pretty nice tank. In the beginning they're a little shy but once they start getting used to you they're quite friendly. All of mine come to the front of the tank when it's feeding time.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking 2 gouriamis, 4 or 5 zebra danios, and a betta.
What do i need for hiding spots for the Betta.
Also do i have to put real plants in or can i use fake.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was also thinking to put some mollies in it instead of zebras or the betta.
Im not sure if all the fish will get along tho???
anyone know?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't mix a betta with gouramis. They're too closely related and will probably fight. Instead of a betta, I'd add another dwarf gourami (1 male & 2 females or 3 females would be good).

For bottom feeders, you could go with cories or otos (both prefer groups of at least 3). Or there may be some small species of loach that would work.

And no, you don't have to have live plants. Fake are just fine.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about 2 or 3 mollies instead of the betta or a third Gouriamis.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with not adding bettas in with gouramis. I tried it with Tikki and one of my gouramis (he was a real mean guy). There was a lot of posturing by Tikki but no real fighting. I decided not to take the chance of keeping them together.

Never had mollies so I can't comment on if they'd get along.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone have suggestions on mollies??
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a few question about plants.
Do u need a sand base to have real ones or can they survive in gravel?
how do you take care of them?
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