Nose Color

True_Pits · Super Senior Member Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 1433

Got my new digital camera and the new pics. What color is his nose? Dam has the same nose color.

I found a pic of his dam.

Sara · Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject:

Hmmm.... Butterfly is what I'm thinking it is technically... But who knows...it would probably depend on a judge judgeing the dog in a show...so it could go either way... Black, Red or Butterfly... Interresting!

True_Pits · Super Senior Member Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 1433

Really?? A butterfly nose? He is registered as a fawn (black nose) but its not really black nor is it red. Its like "black" overcast with red showing through. His toe nails and eye rims are red and maybe its just the OFRN blood seeping through. I guess that may sound silly but you never know with colors and genetics. Its just a really strange color. I have a bitch with a butterfly nose. Which is a dudley nose that has some pigment most of the time in the form of a butterfly, but his isn't like that. butterfly is the dudley (flesh) but his is more like actual red.

goob · Senior Member Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 810

If his eyerims and nails are red (though nails can turn red from pressure bleeding when they get a bit long), his nose is also red (at least theoretically, as eyerims and nose in a solid colored dog should all be the same). I've heard of some dogs' pigment darkening up from sun exposure (though I've also heard the opposite in some ohter breeds, like labs), maybe that's what happened with him. Are his eyerims red like in normal rednosed dogs, or the color of the red in his nose?

Sara · Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 12:04 pm Post subject:

I honestly think that the nose color thing would be up to the judge... I Doubt they would actually pick the Butterfly color but I'm sure it'd be a toss up with half of the judges calling it a black nose while the other half calls it red nose.

True_Pits · Super Senior Member Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 1433

I wasn't talking about judges though. I'm not even sure what to call it, its really neither red nor black, I'd think most people would think it is black, especially if they didn't pay attention but when they look and realize they don't know what to call it. If half the judges would call it black and the other half red then its really? There is no definate answer to this color.

chickee · Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 3:25 pm Post subject:

I always thought Luke had a weird colored nose. This is him (on the left) as a puppy. He seemed to have lost the color in his nose around 4½ - 5 months. It's like pink instead of red. lol

True_Pits · Super Senior Member Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 1433

He's a light red not fawn..lol my mistake. So he is registered as light red still not sure about his nose.

Chickee he has a dudley (flesh/pink) colored nose, which isn't red but the lack of pigment. I haven't seen too many dogs with noses like that, usually they are butterfly noses.

Sara · Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 5:45 pm Post subject:

So is Askari really a Dudley nose or a red/liver nose? BTW she was suffering from Allergies that day...REALLY red and seepy eyes...

Links to more pics of Askari:

http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/apbtchic/detail?.dir=/Arcadyan%27s+Askari+Princess&.dnm=Askari.jpg

http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/apbtchic/detail?.dir=/Arcadyan%27s+Askari+Princess&.dnm=Askari_Paw.jpg

http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/apbtchic/detail?.dir=/Arcadyan%27s+Askari+Princess&.dnm=Askari_Look.jpg

chickee · Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 5:48 pm Post subject:

The thing with luke is, he DID have color in his nose.

I also figured it was a dudley, but even professionals were telling me different. Some just think it's because he is moreof a red fawn in color, rather than a red, but that don't fly with me. It's a dudley. At least now I'm not the only one who thinks so!

chickee · Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 5:50 pm Post subject:

Askari has a rednose. see the difference with Luke?

Sara · Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 5:53 pm Post subject:

Wonder if they don't even consider "Red" in the Boerboel Standard... Well they do mention that Liver or Dudly colored noses are a DQ so...I'd assume they look at them as two different "colors"--Dudly being a lack of color that is--

Hmmm... Some people tell me Dudly (Boerboel folks) while most of the other people (all breed folks) tell me red/liver...

DogmaMa · Member Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 35

The nose of the dog in the first picture looks like many black,nosed dogs Ive seen that have rubbed their nose color off, over time, by pushing dirt onto their food with it, or from rubbing it on wire.
Ive also heard that color type with that nose referred to as 'rust' or ' dark red'