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pitts4life23 Member Posts: 12 |
posted 02-19-2004 01:23 PM
I love the pitbull breed so much and i was wondering whether or not i should get one i want one but then again i wonder about getting one because my younger brother is allergic to dogs but my cousin had one that stayed in my house for a couple of days and my brother didn't even sneeze once when he was with the dog. But if i get one it would be from a backyard breeder more than likely so i would like your opinions on getting one frome a byb or getting one at all thx. IP: Logged |
justice82003 Member Posts: 48 |
posted 02-19-2004 02:27 PM
Dont buy from a byb, go to the shelter and I am sure you can find a great little APBT. Why would you have to get it from a BYB. IP: Logged |
benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 02-19-2004 03:20 PM
if you wanna go the byb breedeer route then i would have to say SHOULDN'T IP: Logged |
MyPetTherapyDog Member Posts: 157 |
posted 02-19-2004 03:32 PM
By All means NO BACK YARD BREEDERS!!! Do some research and get one from a reputable breeder!!!!! IP: Logged |
Deus Member Posts: 136 |
posted 02-19-2004 03:48 PM
!!!!!!!!PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!!
This was passed around on a email list we subscribe to. Thought it was "food for thought" even though it talks about Golden retrievers. It may be a good read for those people interested in buying ANY breed of dog, and want to know what to research, especially if for more than a pet. WHO CARES..... The breeder was sure the sire and dam were very smart and trainable and had good temperaments. But she didn't care enough to prove it to the rest of the world by earning a basic level obedience title, or even a Canine Good Citizen certificate on either. They were only pets. The breeder thought these pups would make terrific hunting dogs; so she told the buyer who came looking for a hunting companion. She just knew the sire and dam would have been good hunting dogs. Of course, they had no hunting experience, no hunting titles, not even a Working Certificate. She didn't care; their puppies were only to be pets. Her buyer walked away in disgust... HE wanted MORE than just a pet. HE wanted a good hunting companion. The breeder didn't care... Her puppies were JUST to be pets, no more.... The buyers came and bought their pets. They didn't care that the breeder didn't know the full health background behind their puppy...it was JUST a pet. They didn't care if the sire or dam met the breed standard or not. They didn't care that their puppy might NOT grow up to look like a breed standard golden retriever....it was just a pet. They didn't care that the temperament and trainability of the sire and dam were unproven...their puppy was just a pet and they were SURE it would be sweet and good with kids because ALL goldens are, RIGHT? They didn't CARE... It was JUST a pet... Until it came up lame at 8 months of age and the vet said severe hip dysplasia, expensive surgery needed. Until they found they could NOT control the puppy and they couldn't seem to train it. Until the puppy BIT the baby and it took 20 stitches at the hospital to close the wound. Then they CARED...enough to promptly dump the puppy at the nearest animal shelter. Maybe someone else will care enough to fix the problems. Maybe someone else will care enough to give the puppy a hug before he is put to sleep FOREVER. The breeder didn't care, she had another litter just born that were just pets. WHO CARES? Don't people buying a puppy for a pet have a right to a puppy that is healthy and has the BEST possible chances of staying healthy for its entire life? Don't they have a right to a puppy that will grow up to LOOK like a golden retriever? Don't they have a right to a puppy that WILL have a good temperament and be easily trained? Don't they have a right to a puppy that is a RETRIEVER in addition to a GOLDEN? HOW can a breeder ensure that her dogs will have all these traits if she doesn't TEST them? Would you REALLY want a puppy from a breeder who doesn't CARE? What chances does that puppy really have if its breeder doesn't care that much and is willing to settle for 'just pets?' Would you want someone BUYING a puppy when they DON'T CARE? What chance does that puppy have if the buyer right from the start doesn't really care about what they are buying? The rescues, shelters and *landfills* in this country are FULL of 'just pets.' Some of us CARE! Do you? (Copyright 1997 Anne V. McGuire. May be reprinted and distributed in its entirety only, whole and unedited, for educational purposes ONLY and free of charge) IP: Logged |
Deus Member Posts: 136 |
posted 02-19-2004 03:57 PM
BACK YARD BREEDERS ARE GENERALY UNNOLAGABLE AND UNINFORMED (IDIOTS) TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK DO YOUR SELF A FAVORE AND AVOID THEM OR ALERGIES MAY BE THE LEAST OF YOUR PROBLEMS!
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pitts4life23 Member Posts: 12 |
posted 02-19-2004 06:52 PM
Deus i didn't say i didn't care about the puppy i might buy. The byb i know isn't that stoopid about the dogs she breeds and i've seen the puppy's from other litters she's had and they are fine body wise and mentally wise and the only real reason i want to get a pit pup from her is because i feel bad for them she still acts ghetto and she leaves the dogs alone for long periods of time and they always wine and cry so i figure if i get a dog from her i can give it more attention and give it a better life then she can or any other people in my building that treat there pits badly. That's why i wanted to get a pit from her because it breaks my heart and i want to help them even if it's only one And i have looked in shelters but most of the pits in the shelters were abused and have special needs and i'm sure i couldn't be able to to take one in with special needs and i'm not saying that all i want is a puppy and that i don't want an older dog but i want to love and train a dog from it's early months and i already have a two year old apbt that was from an abusive home that loves people and other dogs alot and i want her to have a friend. [This message has been edited by pitts4life23 (edited 02-19-2004).] IP: Logged |
kyles101 Member Posts: 227 |
posted 02-19-2004 08:19 PM
if you get a dog from her youre just encouraging her to breed more! also, you say you dont want a dog with special needs, but if they whine and cry all the time and they are left alone then youll end up with a pup who will be glued to your side. its so hard for pups/dogs to get over seperation anxiety and it can cost you big $ in repair bills! im sure you could find a puppy in a shelter. if not go to a proper breeder, it will be worth it. IP: Logged |
pitts4life23 Member Posts: 12 |
posted 02-20-2004 07:39 AM
Well listening to all of your opinions especially kyles101 i've decided to get a pit from a shelter. IP: Logged |
Samsintentions Member Posts: 944 |
posted 02-20-2004 10:08 AM
Great choice! IP: Logged |
Deus Member Posts: 136 |
posted 02-20-2004 11:21 AM
kyles101 is rite BYB-izm should be stoped cold! If know one buy's from them or even eccepts pups from them, mabe they will get the message and stop fluding the market with poorly bread animals. You said it your self. *(the only real reason i want to get a pit pup from her is because i feel bad for them she still acts ghetto and she leaves the dogs alone for long periods of time and they always wine and cry*) Does this sound like a RESONSIBLE breeder to you! Ask her when you see her next, What line are your dogs out of, have you done an Hip & Elbow OFA OR PennHipp ex-ray on the breeding pair, Have you done any health testing at all ext ext I think you know what the answer's are going to be but if she says yes then make her prove it. Its not to much to ask, just say can I see the paper work if she refuses walk away. One more, *(give it a better life then she can or any other people in my building that treat there pits badly*) This person is breeding dogs in a apartment building??? Do what you feel is rite pitts4life23 I'm just trying to give you a little food for thought thats all.
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pitts4life23 Member Posts: 12 |
posted 02-20-2004 01:15 PM
i will keep you guys posted. my friend and me decided to call the aspca on her because we were going to ask her a couple of questions like Deus suggested and she let us in the house and we see nothing but dogs all over and some badly abused but she seemed to know about her dogs well enough but we called the aspca because of all the dogs in her two bedroom apartment and because some were abused very badly. [This message has been edited by pitts4life23 (edited 02-20-2004).] IP: Logged |
kyles101 Member Posts: 227 |
posted 02-21-2004 12:21 AM
horah! hope you find a nice doggie pal in a shelter. IP: Logged |
pitts4life23 Member Posts: 12 |
posted 02-21-2004 08:42 AM
i hope i will find a good doggie in the shelter to but in the mean time i'm dog proofing my house. and getting all my stuff ready i'm so excited. IP: Logged |
goob Member Posts: 552 |
posted 02-21-2004 09:25 AM
Try contacting Out of the Pits rescue, they have some absolutely beautiful dogs, most of whom I believe have already been temperament tested, started on basic obedience and house manners, etc. Here's their website: http://www.outofthepits.org/ IP: Logged |
#1SBT Member Posts: 29 |
posted 02-21-2004 06:19 PM
i was just wondering what everyone classes as a BYB because i have 2 english staffies and i am planning on breeding them. they are both on main register with my local canine association. and were both purchased from reputable breeders. i havent had them tested for hip displasia yet but plan to do so in the near future. both of my dogs are very good temperment which is the most important thing i am trying to achieve in my breeding. i will not be doing conformation showing with them even tho i have been told by several breeders who have seen them that they will get their aust championship easily. i will be doing agility instead. IP: Logged |
Samsintentions Member Posts: 944 |
posted 02-23-2004 05:07 AM
DO not breed those dogs until they have both proven themselves, had ALL testings done, and your Vet agrees. Also unless you have GOOD REputable and respectable homes already sought out for the pups.... IP: Logged |
facedog Member Posts: 21 |
posted 02-24-2004 01:49 AM
i dont know what your calling bybing the main thing is health I have both beagles and pits and I sale neither of their puppies when they are born I will give them to a home of my approval and even then I check up and would take any dog back at any time for any reason unless made mean then I would report the owner none of my dogs are registered but are all fullblooded they love people just the same the beagles hunt and my pit makes my wife feel safe only because she keeps a ear up and an eye open the only thing she bites is her toenails IP: Logged |
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