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Brutus_myAB
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From:odenton, maryland
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posted 01-06-2004 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brutus_myAB     Edit/Delete Message
Hello everyone,
This is my first time to here. I live in Maryland with my girlfriend and our 1 year old American Bulldog. He was given to us three months ago from a friend that saved him from being put down at the pound. He is very active and loves to be loved. I didnt know much about American Bulldogs when we first brought him into our home but I have been reading as much about them as possible to be sure I am doing everything to keep him strong and healthy. If anyone has any suggestions to give a new AB owner, they would all be greatly appreciated. He has been a fantastic addition to my family.

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Samsintentions
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posted 01-06-2004 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samsintentions     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome!

Don't have any bulldogs, but i definately think you'll find any and everything you could ever want to know here!!

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honeybear
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posted 01-06-2004 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeybear     Edit/Delete Message
congrats on your new addition! there a a few bull dog people that can probably give you lots of pointers welcome
Honeybear

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ozzy_AmericanBulldog
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posted 01-06-2004 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozzy_AmericanBulldog     Edit/Delete Message
Hi,

welcome to the board! I own 4 American Bulldogs. What do you want to know about the breed? You need to make sure ( as with any large breed of dog!) that he knows that you are the boss. Why were they going to put him to sleep? If you have any problems or need to talk my email address is available and i have an American Bulldog group on Yahoo, if you are interested in joining let me know. There are pictures of my 4 on there.

Ozzy

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Brutus_myAB
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posted 01-07-2004 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brutus_myAB     Edit/Delete Message
Brutus was taken to the pound by the father of the 16 year old original owner who just didnt have the patience for a new puppy. The pound was going to put him down because they assumed that he was a Pitbull, which by some state law, if Pits are found, they are put down. Luckily my friend had the sense to know he was an AB and was able to contact the original owner to confirm her thoughts. Ozzy, how do I get to your website? Im not highly skilled on the computer so I may ask a few questions that seem childish. How can I join? Some things I would like to know about are what type of diets I should keep him on, what type of excersize I can do with him, and the best ways to discipline him if he does something he knows is wrong. He understands Im the boss, but he does little things to get the attention if he is not the main focus. Thanks everyone for making me feel welcome.

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ozzy_AmericanBulldog
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posted 01-07-2004 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozzy_AmericanBulldog     Edit/Delete Message

Hi,

my email address is ozzy_americanbulldog.co.uk, send me an email and then i will email you an invite to my group. I will help you as much as i can. Dont worry about it none of your questions are childish! Hope to hear from you soon!

Ozzy xx

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Brutus_myAB
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posted 01-07-2004 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brutus_myAB     Edit/Delete Message
Ozzy, I tried sending you an email the conventional way through hotmail, but is said the address was not in the correct format. Again, apologies for my lacking of computer knowledge. I have the address as ozzy_americanbulldog.co.uk.

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GoodboysBaddogs
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posted 01-07-2004 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoodboysBaddogs     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Brutus' Owner,

Congrats on your AB!
That's cool that your friend was able to make the distinction between the two.
AB's are awesome!! I'm sure you agree...

Hmmmmmm diet...

Well, let me just talk about dry kibble foods, since that's what i have the most experiance in. I'll assume your feeding this way...
I've tried a food called "Canidae", that i personally think is good stuff at a cheap/reasonably affordable price (if that matters to you, i don't know).
If you have no worries with $$$, then i would definately consider feeding the "Raw" & "Cooked" HUMAN food route. Forget about kibble diets.
But, like the most of us (i think i can safely say) we go the kibble route for convenience & it's lower cost.
Don't get me wrong, feeding "human-grade" kibble is the best way to feed, if your not going the raw & cooked way. Basically, it would be the next best thing. But remember, "human-grade" QUALITY.

A good way to get started on "making the right choice" for your dog would be to go to this website www.naturapet.com & go into "comparisons". Compare different brands/companies to narrow down to your favorites.

I personally have my own fav's from doing what i just mentioned, narrowing them "all" down. I then feed my dogs what's called a "rotation diet", but w/ kibble.


Exercise:

Ahhh yes... 1st off, the AB since the beginning of their presence in America have generally been bred to WORK. To be a "working" breed, menas that a healthy/solid/sound AB l o v e s to exercise/work. What ever you decide to go with, wheather it be running/jogging, swimming (i think this is the best type for a lot of animals, & humans), weight-pulling, you name it, the AB "should" be ready & willing.
At first your AB might be a little slow, but this is natural. Just like introducing anything new to anybody you'd want to take it nice & slow & easy. Gradually, as you see improvement, then go ahead & go faster, longer, harder, etc..
The best type of exercise for "any" dog i'd say, is one that YOU participate in. Your dog will only be motivated, & it makes it seem that it's not really exercise/work, but it's a time for the both of you to understand each other, yes, bonding... Nothing wrong with that, only goods.

Discipline...
Well, this is something that i hate doing... But with a hella physical dog, sometimes you gotta let them know you can be as well. ONLY IN THE BEGINNING THOUGH, and NEVER AGIAN, S E R I O U S L Y . Their smart dogs, and get the point & never forget.
I pretty much don't even have to raise my voice anymore. My Bully knows when he's doing wrong. And he v e r y rarely does.
It'll be tough since he's already an adult.
But really what the hard part is that he's BiG & not a small pup. But i think (besides older dogs) an adult dog is still willing to learn things. Just have consistancy as usual.

What are the specific kinda things your trying to teach him? This could give me a better idea on approach for you?


Hey you know how to post pics?
I'd love to check em'out.
Later....

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Brutus_myAB
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posted 01-08-2004 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brutus_myAB     Edit/Delete Message
Hey there Goodboy, thanks for the reply.
I have been feeding him regular kibble but I have recently found out that the quality of the type I was giving him wasn't human grade. Therefore I am trying a new type, hopefully he will enjoy it as well.
I have had one problem health wise with Brutus that I still haven't been able to narrow down. 'Bully Bumps' is what I have read them as. We took him to the Vet after his first outbreak of small bumps that spanned from his lower to his upper back. At first they were just tiny bumps, but they evently all scabbed up, leaving him with tiny bald spots all over his back. The Vet said it was an allergic reaction to what could be almost anything. That's the number one reason I am changing his diet around. I have gone as for as changing out his bedding, changing his shampoo, walking him in different areas, going to metal bowls for feeding instead of the plastic, but the outbreaks randomly continue. Brutus doesn't really even seem to mind them, but they have got to itch something fierce. All the vet did was give him a Benedryl shot and have us give hime Benedryl twice a day. I would really like to find the underlying cause instead of just treating the symptoms but I am running out of ideas.
If you have had to deal with anything like this, any info you could pass along would be greatly appreciated.

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Jamiya
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posted 01-08-2004 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
How about allergy testing to determine what the cause is? It could take you forever, eliminating one thing at a time and waiting to see if it makes a difference and then trying something else - and doing it that way you may NEVER know what the allergy is.

There are several different kinds of allergy tests, but I think the skin tests (like they do in humans) is supposed to be the best. Perhaps someone else here with more experience in this matter can add to that?


Jamiya

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ozzy_AmericanBulldog
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posted 01-08-2004 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozzy_AmericanBulldog     Edit/Delete Message

Hi,

SORRY! I made a mistake! My email address is ozzy_americanbulldog@yahoo.co.uk.

Ozzy

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GoodboysBaddogs
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posted 01-08-2004 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoodboysBaddogs     Edit/Delete Message
Actually, we've had to deal with something similar, if not the exact thing.

Have you noticed when these bumps come up?
After an outdoor run, after bathing, after feeding, after brushing, after a hot-humid day, when you bring him indoors, etc...?
You also mentioned that it actually left tiny bald spots... This is what makes it slightly different from our experience.

Did you say there wasn't any scratching going on?
Did your Vet mention anything about doing a skin scrap? Or any type of skin test?

Can you tell me exactly what kind/brand of kibble your feeding?
Does he lay down and take a day nap in the middle of the suns rays?
Is his color predominantly white?

I'm no expert, but try & answer these Q's for me so i can try to narrow down what might be going on....

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Brutus_myAB
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posted 01-09-2004 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brutus_myAB     Edit/Delete Message
GBBD,
Ive noticed that the bumps come on at different times. He had a pretty big outbreak after I gave him a bath, which made me assume that it was the shampoo. Then he had an outbreak with out me giving him a bath. He doesn't normally lay in the sun. I take him on walks but try to keep him away from wooded areas where there may be mites and what-nots. I have him eating Purina Dog Chow right now. He was eating puppy chow up to a few months ago. I have purchased a different brand that is supposed to be better quality, but the name has slipped my mind. There is mild scratching going on, at sometimes he nibbles at his feet. His feet were pretty torn up from that when he first got him, but he has since not done it so much. He has in the last week, about a week after his last outbreak, started dragging his hind on the carpet trying to itch down low. Something new to throw in the mix.
He is al white, excluding fawn patches over both eyes.

The tiny bald spots came from after the bumps scabbing up and the hair falling out with the scab. This has occured slightly in the previous outbreaks, but the last one, he lost lots of hair.

I appreciate you help.

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Brutus_myAB
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posted 01-09-2004 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brutus_myAB     Edit/Delete Message
Forgive the spelling errors in the lst post. I was trying to type beyond my abilities.

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GoodboysBaddogs
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posted 01-09-2004 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoodboysBaddogs     Edit/Delete Message
Bathing:

What's the name/brand of your shampoo?

Yeah with giving him a bath, try to be a little more gentler. From beginning to end.
Okay, i'll assume that you bathe him outside with the garden hose.
When you first start spraying/soaking him down w/ the hose, try to be gentler with your other hand (the hand that rubs him down). Tyr to make sure that your rubbing in the direction of his hair. Usually this would be downwards or backwards.
When you start the shampooing stage, be sure to do the same thing. It's gonna seem awkward rubbing/scrubbing in the shampoo gentler than before, and in a 1 direction manner, but just give it a try, it's still possible to give a good bath .
When drying him off, be sure to be extra gentle at this point, because his hair pores & hair follicles are extra sensitive & soft.
Basically they can be easily damaged.
Again i'll assume that you towel-dry.
When doing so, do as the same as above. Your not gonna be really rubbing or scrubbing here, it's gonna be more like deep wiping (1 direction).

Basically, if this is what's causing the bumps on his body, it probably caused by his hair pores & hair follicles becoming inflamed from the harsh rubbing throughout the bathing process.

Let me submit this, & then i'll try & answer some of your next Q's...

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GoodboysBaddogs
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posted 01-09-2004 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoodboysBaddogs     Edit/Delete Message
---Then he had an outbreak with out me giving him a bath.

This can also happen when you brush him down harshly.
Basically, when ever his hair follicles are pushed awkwardly &/or harshly in the oppisite direction of it's natural flow.

Stress...
Stress can be a major factor too.
How long have you had him?
Is he being stressed-out a little more latley?


Nutrition:

You said that you got him from a shelter or the pound right?
Well in the pounds, they don't necessarily give "good" food there, & coupled with unnecessary stress from that enviroment could be what's showing up now, that has been building up.
JMO, but i don't really think that Purina is a "wholesome" type of kibble. They use chemical peservatives that have been recorded to cause cancer. And they also use a number of ingredients that are known to be allergens to many dogs today.
And they use "filler" ingredients. Filler meaning = it has little or no nutritional value what so ever. They just use them to construct the food into shape, but more so, to save money.
This could be the reason why your dog was scrathing/licking his feet.

Nutrtion is a very important part in keeping your dogs Immune System strong & healthy.

Does his skin & coat look dull & is it dry to the touch?

What's the name of that other brand you bought?

If you could afford to buy something like Eukanuba Large Breed Adult, than instead of going with Eukanuba, i (JMO) would go with a food/kibble called "Chicken Soup", or like i said before "Canidae", or Natural Balance Ultra Premium. Shoot, just rotate amongst all 3 !!! There are a lot more brand companies that are as wholesome if not better IMO, but those are W A Y M O R E worth it's price than Eukanuba, IMO .


Check out PSI's American Bulldog site. They have something on their about "Bully Bumps".
I don't think they currently have any info on it, but just email them with concerns you have about your AB. I'm sure they'll be more than happy to help you out. Hopefully .


Keep Me Posted....

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GoodboysBaddogs
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posted 01-09-2004 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoodboysBaddogs     Edit/Delete Message
Have you taken him to the Vet about all this?

Are those bald spots still bald?


With scratching his hiney on the carpet & stuff...

It might be worms, or some type of bacteria that's giving the itch.
There's a specific thing that can be causing this, but i can't recall it right now. I'm not sure if it's a bacteria, or mites, or worms. I'll let you know if i ever remember.
But even with just the rubbing his butt on the floor thing is something worth going to the Vet for. The earlier the better...
That's always a for sure .

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Jamiya
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posted 01-09-2004 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
Butt scooting can be anal glands, if that's what you're thinking of?


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GoodboysBaddogs
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posted 01-09-2004 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoodboysBaddogs     Edit/Delete Message
Jamiya you know what, that's sounding like what i was trying to think of.

Yup it is! Anal glands!
When a dogs anal glands get full or something like that, and their not able to naturally get rid of that foulish smelling stuff (by naturally taking a dump), they say that you should take your dog in so that a professional can "squeeze it out". But if i remember right, you could actually do this at home yourself. BUT, you gotta stick your fingers up in there, seriously !!
And if you don't know what to look for, i guess that's why they say to have it done by a pro.

Personally i would'nt mind doing it
I've always wanted to get "hands on" experience, but i've never had to.

I better not want it too much, because here it comes around the corner right !?!

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Brutus_myAB
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posted 01-10-2004 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brutus_myAB     Edit/Delete Message
Im going to get him to the vet right away. While Im there I will discuss the different allergy tests. Has anyone had them done and have the results been adequate to solving the problems.

The new kibble I have just started him on is Pro-plan by Purina, which I am now guessing isn't much of a step up from what I was giving him before. I will see how he does with it and will try the others you have mentioned.

Do you have any suggestions on good brands of shampoo to use. The one I had is supposed to be for sensitive skin, but that is obviously a cruel joke.

Thanks again everyone for the helpfull suggestions. I am truely a novice at this but you are making it a smooth ride.

Joshua

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