posted 04-23-2003 11:52 PM           

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ok just reading all over this messenge board your people attack people who are asking for or selling poo mixes .ok you have spoken your opinions now keep them to yourself. WE have just as much right to be here as you .
Your say that mixed dogs are in pounds and being put to sleep. Well 20-25% of pure bred dogs are also being put to sleep in pounds.
I have resecued pets before . i think it is great but i also have a mixed dog i paid for which I have been attacked for on this board. I am sick and tired of pampass people acting so superior.
Now you have spoken your piece leave it alone. your see the headlines maltipoos or sale, don't read it if you don't like it!!!

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posted 04-24-2003 01:04 PM         

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That still leaves 75%-80% of dogs in shelters that are mixed breeds... sure, some are from people who just had two dogs and let them breed, or who's dog got bred accidentally by the dog down the street, but others are from people who thought it would be really "cute' to mix "x" breed and "x" breed to get cute little pups. I have less of a problem with people who have an "oops" litter, as long as they don't advertise the dogs as "pure", or as anything other than they are; mixes. The dogs should also be sold/given away on spay/neuter contracts, or fixed before they leave. I do have more of a problem with people who intentionally breed for mixes, or who let their dogs have litter after litter because "it's natural", or because they really don't care.

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posted 04-24-2003 01:20 PM           

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If you are making reference to me, please share the logic behind your comments? It's permissible for you to openly state your opinions but not for me to do so because I (and others here) do not agree with everything you say???? If you can't take others opinion without regarding it as "attacking" then stop with the blanderous statements in the first place!

Where do you get your stats from? Please list your sources and references, with or without this doesn't necessarily mean there is truth to this. Regardless, it just goes to show us once again there are already TOO many dogs without homes pure & mixed.

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posted 04-24-2003 01:42 PM           

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JP,
Ther is no question that there are too many unwanted animals in the world period. It is unfortunately an awful situation. BUT I am just stating that if there are too many shouldn't some of the breeding be regulated also????As for my source it came from your post under poo crosses thread.The link that you wanted all of us mixed loving people to read. Netal.org

You posted the link for "We have a severe pet-overpopulation crisis in the US; We slaughter thousands of beautiful, vital, healthy dogs every single day. (Twenty-five percent of shelter dogs are purebred.) "

Look at your own link and read it for yourself.

And as I posted before I am not blaming any one group for this problem. I feel breeders, mixed breeders, and people who let their pets to have puppies and kittens just "because "are the problems. We are all the problem!Thanks again for the great debate.

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posted 04-24-2003 02:28 PM         

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My dog is a mixed breed, yet I am completley against doing this on purpose. You are a great person to go to the shelter and rescue a mixed breed, but by purchasing a mixed breed from a so called breeder at ridiculous prices..thats only encouraging them, when in fact it needs to stop.

I agree that there should be a breeding law...but logically would it work? Would there be enouph funding? Who would do it?
How would they keep track, when some people don't even register their dogs?

I don't have my dog registered simply because of the breed and I don't want anybody coming to take him away...so they ain't got my info. He is fixed tho and I would never consider breeding him even though he is very unique!

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posted 04-24-2003 04:40 PM         

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I'm a breeder and because of so many people having mixed dogs breed their purebreds and register them as purebreds the AKC changed all their rules and made it very expensive for all of the honest breeders out here. I think that mixed breeding shouldn't be allowed. I had to reregister all of my dogs with APR just so I didn't have to deal with all the bills and bloodtest that are expensive and I couldn't afford. I really do feel that mixed breeding should be stopped.

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posted 04-24-2003 09:31 PM           

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Thanks Sheltie for sending a nicer reply. I wasn't disagreeing, I just like to read and be able to find the source of info.... I have so much info bookmarked under 'rescue' its hard to remember what comes from where. I agree, breeding should be regulated what ever the breed(s)!! I wish!

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posted 04-25-2003 12:04 PM           

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Noel,
Are you saying that you can't afford a simple bloodtest in order to sale your puppies? I hope this isn't genectic testing???I can't say I agree with that of course that is just my opinion and I am not being rude. I just worry how many puppys suffer because of that. Let me explain. I bought a keeshond from sears pet store when i was 16 years old.I didnt' know anything about pet stores and still really dont' but she probably came from a puppymill. She ended up dying suddenly in my arms at 5 years old of genetic heart failure.She had been to the vet time and time again and they thought she was healthy. She had never been sick except allergies. WE had to have her autopsied to even know what had happened. I was just devastated. Please dont' take this wrong . Its just my heart speaking.
JP,
I was not trying to be rude, i just get very defensive when there is too much generalization .I am glad we agree something . I do appreciate your cause though.

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posted 04-25-2003 04:25 PM         

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This is not genetic testing. The AKC came in and said that there was to much inbreeding and people mixing purebreeds with mixed dogs that they started making you present blood so that if there was question they could look at the blood and see if the dogs from that litter were really bred the way the Reg. Papers said they were. That was the point of the blood tests to see if they were really purebreds or not. It gets really expensive to test all of your dogs and then make sure all of your puppies get a full vet examination before you sell them so I couldn't afford to pay an extra 95 dollars a year per male dog that i was using for breeding plus keep up on all of their shots.

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